Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 124

03/27/2006 02:00 PM House RESOURCES


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-- Recessed to a Call of the Chair --
Until 1:00 PM Wed, 03/29/06
*+ HCR 30 AK CLIMATE IMPACT ASSESSMENT COMMISSION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHCR 30(RES) Out of Committee
*+ HB 307 KNIK RIVER PUBLIC USE AREA TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HB 307-KNIK RIVER PUBLIC USE AREA                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS announced that the  final order of business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO. 307,  "An Act  creating the Knik  River Public                                                               
Use Area."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BILL STOLTZE,  Alaska State Legislature, presented                                                               
HB  307  as  sponsor.   He  said  the  affected  area is  in  his                                                               
district,  and  he  attempted  to   balance  multiple  use,  good                                                               
management,  and   habitat  protection.    He   held  two  fairly                                                               
extensive  public  hearings  in   Butte  and  has  had  countless                                                               
meetings with  people in support  of, as  well as not  in support                                                               
of,  this  bill.     He  said  the  most   prevalent  concern  is                                                               
enforcement and resources.   He noted that he  has worked closely                                                               
with the Department  of Natural Resources (DNR)  and the Attorney                                                               
General's Office on  this bill, and the  enforcement language has                                                               
drastically  changed from  the original  version.   His  proposed                                                               
amendment would  allow outside  entities to  support enforcement.                                                               
He  remarked  that  the  Matanuska-Susitna  motorized  users  are                                                               
skeptical  of a  management  plan,  but he  convinced  them of  a                                                               
multiple-use  plan that  protects habitat.   He  stated that  the                                                               
Butte  Community  Council  endorsed  the bill.    The  Matanuska-                                                               
Susitna  Borough endorsed  the concept  of a  public use  area in                                                               
their resolution, without endorsing this actual bill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:15:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SAMUELS  moved to adopt  CSHB 307,  Version 24-LS0737\I,                                                               
Bullock,  3/15/06,  as the  working  document.   There  being  no                                                               
objection, Version I was before the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DICK  MYLIUS,  Acting  Director,  Division of  Mining,  Land  and                                                               
Water,  Department of  Natural Resources,  said the  division had                                                               
concerns with  the original  draft, which  has been  addressed in                                                               
the CS.  He affirmed that the  concept of a public-use area has a                                                               
lot  of   public  support,  but  there   are  concerns  regarding                                                               
management.    He  explained  that  this  bill  would  set  aside                                                               
approximately 264,000 acres  of state land as  a public-use area,                                                               
which is  a multiple-use  area open  to mining  and logging.   He                                                               
noted that it would start near  Butte, and the western end of the                                                               
area is  within a mile of  the old Glen Highway,  which has trail                                                               
access and  fairly heavy public use.   Some of the  areas further                                                               
to the  east are  more remote,  including a  portion of  the Knik                                                               
Glacier and  some valleys that  drain south into the  Knik River.                                                               
It  includes a  large  area of  the Knik  River  flats, which  is                                                               
popular for off-road  vehicle use.  He said this  bill requires a                                                               
management plan from DNR because  there are competing ideas as to                                                               
how  this area  should  be managed.   This  bill  also gives  DNR                                                               
enforcement authority,  which is important because  of the area's                                                               
extensive abuse  by the public.   He referred to an  Alaska State                                                               
Trooper report on  the activities they have been called  for.  It                                                               
is a dumping ground for people  to trash and burn vehicles, and a                                                               
management presence is necessary, he opined.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:20:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO asked about any current designations.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MYLIUS  responded that it's  just general state land  with no                                                               
particular designation.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX asked  why page  2, Section  41.23.190(c),                                                               
reads, "The  Knik River Public Use  Area may not be  managed as a                                                               
unit of the state park system."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STOLTZE said it's  a different type of management,                                                               
and there is  language which will allow park  enforcement but not                                                               
management and promulgation of regulations.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:24:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON   asked  whether  citation   authority  is                                                               
included in arrest authority.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MYLIUS  confirmed that  citation  authority  is included  in                                                               
arrest  authority.   He  mentioned  that  the Attorney  General's                                                               
Office helped draft the bill.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CRAWFORD  asked,  "Are  there  any  private  land                                                               
holders in this area, and would  this change the way they're able                                                               
to manage their land?"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:25:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STOLTZE  surmised  that there  are  private  land                                                               
holders  and explained  that since  it is  state land,  this bill                                                               
would not affect their use of their land.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MYLIUS clarified that only  state land and water are included                                                               
in this bill.   He said there are some  private lands within this                                                               
geographic area, primarily owned by the Eklutna Corporation.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON said page  2, [Section 41.23.190](d) reads,                                                               
"With  the  assistance  of  the   United  States  Army  Corps  of                                                               
Engineers, the  commissioner shall identify wetland  areas within                                                               
the Knik  River Public  Use Area and  provide for  the protection                                                               
and use  of the wetland areas  in the management plan."   He said                                                               
the  Army Corps  of Engineers  produced a  Geographic Information                                                               
Systems (GIS) map from satellite  data on the Kenai Peninsula and                                                               
classified  the entire  lower  peninsula as  wetlands.   "Are  we                                                               
setting ourselves up for a problem?" he asked.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MYLIUS responded  that DNR  is simply  requesting help  with                                                               
identifying wetlands.   He added  that because the Army  Corps of                                                               
Engineers  has regulatory  authority  over wetlands,  it will  be                                                               
useful to have its assistance in identifying those areas.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON stated  that he  wants DNR  to investigate                                                               
what  has happened  on the  lower  Kenai Peninsula  with the  GIS                                                               
identification of all of Homer [as wetlands].                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:28:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TODD CLARK,  President, Alaska Outdoor Access  Alliance, said the                                                               
alliance is  comprised of many access  organizations, mostly from                                                               
Southcentral  Alaska.    The  objective of  the  alliance  is  to                                                               
maximize the  legitimate use of a  resource similar to this.   He                                                               
mentioned that  motorized users recognize  that there's a  lot of                                                               
illegal use [of this area],  but they're reluctant to support any                                                               
form of  management.  Management  is necessary, and  the specific                                                               
provisions that users  are most interested in  are the protection                                                               
for existing trails  and the management objective  that this area                                                               
be a  destination for motorized  users.   In regard to  the lakes                                                               
and streams  in this  area, the  salmon population  is excellent,                                                               
the moose  population is optimal  for the amount of  habitat, and                                                               
waterfowl are healthy and strong.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:33:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MYLIUS, in response to Representative Gatto, confirmed that                                                                 
mining will be allowed, but it will require a permit.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[HB 307 was held over.]                                                                                                         

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